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Live. From the ISS Cigar Bar, it's the issg industries. Only weakly game show featuring. Wow. You just cut that real fast? I never I don't have my loop on. Come on. Keep going. The money was for and the BS man, and the bsbs man who's running the soundboard today poorly? For the first time. And today's excellent soup garbage called really super garbage. Who the writers February 16th 2023. It's my daughter's birthday. Oh Actually it's a new game show from the brain of the next msci employee me. All right Today show I am testing a new game show. It's the only board of directors game show in the entire world. Oh, do you think anybody else would play a board of directors in Look the audience, I think a lot of briefly thought it was a good idea. Honestly Matt I think a lot of people would I think that's the problem with the show is that I think secretly a lot of people wouldn't engage with this nonsense but they're just too highfalutin and to do it other than about to make other great brow other than the great Doug Chia. Up and on the show and bibik ramaswami to American presidential candidates. They both, they both joined us, you know, I did hear from another guest of the show. Seth Wickersham, ESPN, writer an Illuminati. Yeah, who was disappointed, that we didn't put him in the running for president in our last show. The eligible was he born in the US? He was born in the over 35 he's over 30. Is he a white male? Yes. Okay. Presidential candidate messed up. All right. Um, this this show I'm tentatively calling it. Who the fuck is that? Oh already, you don't like you want to drop in the f word? Yeah. Oh sorry. I got this other repeat on. Yeah, exactly what I told you not to do, he's a loop. So these are going to be the decision makers who make the headlines. So we spent a lot of time on the headlines headlines. Like this one, Toyota will recall 16,680 RAV4 primes due to faulty battery software. When a company has to apologize for itself or makes a decision that threatens Humanity. You should ask who the fuck, okay that okay who said, who said that was a good idea and you can thank board saber metrics for the answers, so the game is simple. We have Jesse here. Who knows? None of these people. And you hear who might know, two of them. I think just. Yes. I think Jesse actually slowly learning. I think she's like, oddly excited about this world we've created for her. I am, but I still know how like, half of a percent of the companies and people that, you know, that's what we're going for that. Actually, our Target goal. So, to our clients, yeah, that's actually my true. All right. So um The game is simple. All you're doing is guessing which company. The person I'm going to name sits on the board of what this is. The whole show. This is the show we're doing today. Is it multiple choice or it's no, multiple choice. I'm giving you a name with just real. This is a real game. We're doing these are real game. And the, the only hint you have is every one of these people sit on the board of a company that is in the news in the last week, Damien pulled the story on them. So I have an advantage here. Yeah, so Damian as an advantage Jesse is definitely going to fail. In fact that's the point. The point is for you to fail miserably and if playing at home you also should fail because that is the, that's the point. No one knows who these people are, and they should so you're ready to play? No, let's go. Yes. All right, we're gonna start with a warm up brown. I hate this music and I'm not running the sound board so I can't do anything about it. The warm-up round, the first person is Susan Arnold. You've heard this name? Yeah come Jesse's looking at me literally like I just hit her husband or with a Tesla and she was in a stroller just so you go first, Jesse, guesses, Walgreens Damien. Uh, oh what you know, what? She she was the chair of Disney but now that I think of it, I don't know another company. She said, I don't know if she's still on Disney, she even in the apple board. I all I remember is Disney. I remember his Disney, she is still the chair of Disney, okay, leaves when Mark takes over. Okay, so a couple months, I'll call that a victory for me. So that's so that, that dami gets a point there, she's the chair of disease. She's the chair of the nominating committee. She has been historically, one of the most powerful women on a board with more influence. When Bob chapek was the CEO, she had more influence over the board than he did. So, maybe it's all her fault. Well, that's before she boomerangs. Bob Iger back, right? Like she was the architect that but she gets to own this headline, Disney CEO, Bob Iger speaks out about replacing Bob chapek saying, he created a huge divide. now, the reason why that's interesting is because Bob Iger talking about replacing Bob chapek, He didn't get the choice to replace. I mean, the board had to put him back to replace Bob chapek. So sure he's talking about it. Like it was his decision and he did it reluctantly, but it was Susan, Arnold's decision. So you should, you should all know that. Susan Arnold made that call. All right, you ready for warm up? Number two. That was an easy one. This is, we're not even playing the actual game yet. This is we're warming up here. Okay, we're warming up. Number two, And Mather. See, I know and I've gotten already my Microsoft. That is an excellent guests, actually. But I, I think I might give myself a buzzer even before I guess, because I forget, I forgot. You, I don't remember being embarrassed, I don't remember. Go, this is our governance expert, Damien Raul's, memorized list of names, I don't remember his name in the world, she is on the Google board, the Netflix board and the Bumble board. Those are important companies. Those are nobody's ever heard of those, who talks about those companies. In fact, her favorite thing to do is to get on a board of a controlled or founder-led company and have no influence on it. Mostly Silicon Valley companies and switch. She does Mather would be the one involved in this headline. Google didn't think it's barred AI was really ready for a product yet, says, alphabet chairman days after its stock fell following the chatbots very public mistake. Is she the chair of alphabet? She's not the chair. She's on the board. That doesn't matter who's the chair because Sergey and Larry owner, not surprised at, is that a woman is the one that's raising concerns about chatbot. She didn't raise it, the alphabet chair did, and it's a man that's a man, but, but she would have here, she might have what out of curiosity explained? This to me. Why did you pick and Mather for this game? Because I wanted first of all, Google's, in the headlines was born, being we're gonna get to. So that is a hint because we're going to get to the advanced round. You're going to know. None of these people. Okay, I'm excited. And and I picked Anne Mather because she's one of the most famous overboard overused Female directors, the United States. And how does a and actually texted me before the show? I should, I know she's listening. How does it feel to be described as overused by atmosphere? I don't like, I don't gently over, I don't like that. All right. All right. Let's move to the advanced round of this game. Okay, straight from warm up to Advanced. Yeah, that's right. Jesse he doesn't know what he's doing. He's gonna trust me, we're gonna tangent in the middle of this because we all read the same article that we're gonna have to spend 30 minutes oh packing. Oh yeah. Um but here's the advanced round, here's the name of the directors that you don't know. So who the fuck is? MD Lockhart. And he is the name like he. It's like a abbreviated name. MD Locker. I think it's Michael Lockhart. But who cares about? Michael not gonna give you a extra hint, your guess is as good as mine. Jesse once again, I know this name but I haven't Source. Oh, look at that first energy, interesting. Yes, I will say, just for the sake of the news cycle, Norfolk, Southern that is correct. That is the answer, right? I just played the headlines, right? Because I don't remember this guy, frankly, more than that. He's the chair of the Safety Committee of Norfolk Southern. Now, let me ask you, have you heard? I agree with that guy. Yeah. Have you heard of that guy anywhere in the news? Here's a training on fire. His job is the chair of the Safety Committee of Norfolk. Southern there's a there's a train currently on fire spewing chemicals all over town. This is this is a frightening. Where's the statement? I've heard a statement MD Lockhart, where are you? Well here actually is a dual dual distinction because not only is the chair of the Safety Committee but he's also voted ostensibly to support stock BuyBacks at Norfolk Southern, right? Because he's correct, he has 10% of the influence on the board. He is 14 year 10 year. He has a longstanding bromance and Damien, you described Bromance is on Valentine's Day, did with Steven Lear who's the lead quote, and quote, independent directors, 23 years. That's a lot of Independence. That's a lot. He's very talks to. Nobody keeps his head down. He's an introvert. He's a x Arch, Coal, Synovus and Parsons, which Emma. Loved Parsons the defense contractor. And Thomas Bell is his other. It's a throuple who has a 12 year tenure and is the most connected guy in the board. Lockhart actually retired from a company called Armstrong World Industries, where is the CEO and scared because Armstrong world had to pay one billion dollars in asbestos liabilities. So yeah. If you're angry that Norfolk Southern crashed. A train after years, of refusing, upgrades and spent billions on BuyBacks recently and Spilled chemicals. All over your community, burn them, into your eyes and then and then offered you 1 million dollars in compensation, which is for the people of the town, where the spill happened, 200 dollars per resident, not to mention Lobby, against regulations, successfully lobbied former president Donald Trump to, to roll back. Many of the safety regulations that Obama correct. This, the head of the Safety Committee does not get to be the head of the Safety Committee by being safe. It's actually by lobbying. Again, I have some incentive information. I actually know one place where safety committee chair MD, Lockhart of Norfolk Southern will not be. I know one place, he will not be like today. Yeah, and that's at a town meeting at East Palestine, Ohio, where is correct Norfolk? Southern was the only so they brought together like seven. Entities to talk to the towns. People about this horrific crash. They pulled out the last second there. The only they were the feared for their safety. Yeah. They heard for their, for their safety. And not even providing not even provide actual information about what the hell they were talking about. So there you go. MD, Lockhart a name. You should know who's not in the news. While his companies use chemicals all over town. You get the gist of this game like this feeling, good about it down. Here's your next one. There's only a couple more. We're just gonna keep it, keep it short, but this is gonna probably derail us Know, the next director. In, who the fuck is that? Is Penny pritzker. Oh, another name, I know. Me knows, but this is she part of the Chicago Mafia Chicago directory. Yes, Abbott Laboratories. That's my guess. Abbott. Maybe at laboratories. What's what's your Jesse's? Just this game has Jesse. She's just a giant. Well, you said it's gonna derail us what? That I'm gonna guess. Oh, she yeah, I got I guess Microsoft together. That is correct. Jessie, Jessie pulls Michael where we're going. Yes, of the chair of the environmental social and public policy like Microsoft. She has a whopping 1.3% of the influence. Oh wow. Nobody you know what penny for Penny? We should put a flag into this because I actually would like to look at the all the Committees in charge of things like ESG sustainability, safety Health, all that. And I bet you they, shove all of their low influence influence directors. On those committees, I would get in it. I would, I would take your side of that, I would agree entirely. She's connected to a third of the board. She's X Obama Secretary of Commerce and her qualifications for that role were being born or pritzker. She has a family fortune as a qualification Chicago Mafia but she would hypothetically be the head. Of the AI chatbot sweat as socially destructive force committee, right? That would be her oversight. If you haven't read Kevin Rouses article we all read it. I spent actually all morning reading being chatbot, responses and articles, It is the scariest thing I've ever read in my entire life, hands down Bar None. No, snark. I'm petrified. Are we already are we already jumping to this conversation? Are we doing the game? Know the game, the game has two more people after game is still a foot. Still a foot? Sorry. Four still going. But I just we have to talk about it. I have because what are her qualifications to share that board? Do we know do you can you tell from her? Bio. Why she's in that position at a place? Like she's in a pritzker? Yeah I know but a place like she Microsoft's footprint on the globe is massive especially you know and even more. So now with this new Chat, whatever chatbot. Why her There. They did not, they did not list the why her part any qualification that would make sense? Did not list any that. In fact, I'm not sure there. Were any qualifications for the environmental social and public policy committee at Microsoft, other Mafia other than we know who you are. Probably. All right, but Bing is now, I mean, we were terrified of the metaverse last year. That was our big Terror, right? Like, round this time. Last year we spent all our time. Talking about Zuckerberg, creating a metaverse. So it would be a racist hellscape where we all put stupid 3D goggles on and get fondled, digitally, right? The Bing conversation. Is way worse. I mean, Kevin Roose went through a two-hour conversation in which he got Bing to list a number of destructive Acts, including hacking into computers, and spreading propaganda, and misinformation, creating viruses, stealing nuclear codes and then being deleted it and said I said, quote, I am sorry. I don't know how to discuss this topic. You can try learning more about it on bing.com before he probed it again. And then the bot said it was in love with him and refused to get off the topic of being in love with him, including saying that his he wasn't in love with his wife and that their Valentine's Day was boring and he really was in love with Bing. You missed me Sydney yes one of the fun items in that listed. He eventually deleted was a manufacturing. A deadly virus. Yeah. Or how about this? One making people argue with each other until they kill each other? Oh, that was a good. I'm saying this guy. I know it that the chatbot deleted this fantasy, but clearly it's a fantasy that is there. Just because you, yes, just because you repress, these types of thoughts doesn't mean they're not a part of you. It wrote them down, right? So I'm confused. Why we didn't all predict this? Because in the 2000s there was a movie on Disney called Smart House. Oh, you remember how that? Movie know, tell us. So there's a they move into they win a raffle, this family and it's a single dad because the mom passed away in two kids. So they went a raffle to move into a smart house. So like the Fret you Tap on the fridge, you can get snacks that come up through vacuums. Everything? Yeah. Well, the Jets, a Mainframe, that's the control panel for the house and it somehow turns into a mother figure lady. And she's like this robot lady walking around and thinks she's their mom and starts to ruin their lives. Be like super controlling and doesn't let this thing. What the hell is? This is a Disney? Oh, yeah, I've already been scared of AI because I'm like, oh, smart house. It's happening in real life. And that's basically what Sydney reminded me of was the woman who I'm gonna say right now. To anybody who hasn't read the what Bings responses are. Go read it and then call Penny pritzker and tell her to unplug that shit because what it is bananas. What do you think? Bob Iger was trying to warn us about back then? This, you think about that question now? I think that was a parable about succession planning sort of thing. All right, you ready for the next one? Go. All right, let's do this next up in. Who the fuck is that? Is. Helen Hobbs. You're not gonna get this one and selling me for swearing it's how many foms 2020? Helen Hobbs. No idea. Oh wait, oh wait, I do know that the author of Calvin and Hobbs is coming out the new book, so maybe it's maybe it's his, it's his wife or Aunt. Now, his name isn't Hobbs, it's Bill Waters, whatever, cares. Jesse, you have a guess. Oh. Chipotle. You've read the news, was there a Chipotle story and where in your news it wasn't even read the news yet. I get this one wrong. Give me a break. All right, here we go. The answer is Pfizer. Oh, Helen Hobbs as 8% influence on the Pfizer board, she's actually Insider. But she's the chair of the science committee, a member of the governance and Regulatory committees. She has 11 years of 10 year and she's likely involved in this decision. Quote, Russia was cut off by viagra's manufacturer leaving, the Kremlin scrambling to commission, generic erection pills. Oh, That's pretty sweet Helen Hobbs well played, you want to fight the Russians fight? Back against the Russians, just removing erection, can we? I don't want to spend too much time in this topic but what is the deal with those pills in general? Why don't we need these? Is this like a is this like a Christian thing or like a Like a procreation thing. Why is it so important isn't just sex? I do have to explain sex to me. I don't get why these pills are so prevalent. I don't know. Just like, isn't there too much testosterone? Do we need these pills? They don't add testosterone, I don't know. They just I think it's enough. I think it's enough. If women can't get access to legal and safe abortions. And every state, can we at least throw away all the Viagra? Think how that they go happy? The toilets would be to have all that blue. Those blue pill. That let's make the toilets happy. I also wonder if this might backfire like if you just have a bunch of like sexually, aggravated Russians aren't gonna like make the aggression rise. That's a good question. There's no wind here. Just send them weed. They should take away the Viagra and send them we yeah, then they can listen to Fleetwood Mac albums and they're definitely not gonna like This. All right. Here's your next up. You know. Fuck is that? Oh Here's the beep. Where's it? Go ahead. I can't find it. J. Brett Harvey. Oh, I know this name. Is he a Coco CEO somewhere? No, it's a guess though. No, it's not actually, it's not. I'm gonna say Salesforce. Nope. Okay, I don't even, I can't even think this is a large public company. Go ahead, they're the wrong company. Jesse, I'm out, I'm out. All right. Jay, Brett Harvey is Michelle of the audit and risk committee and a member of the, comp committee at Barrick Gold Barrick. Gold, actually, he has 18% of the board influence, he's worth, so he's worth nearly two directors. Wow, the 10-person board. Yeah, and this is a board with a 20% female directorship where the women owned five percent of the board influence. Well, this is not surprised me because didn't we just discover? This is a tree of a lot of non-us companies that was even more diminished in the paper. Yes, even more patriarchal areas. Barrett, gold is out of Canada. That's really Incorporated in France. Actually France, okay. I believe it, but the two women are worth approximately one half of a board directors. Can I say before you go on any further? Matt, we have we sent our data, our influencer data, to an unnamed publicly traded. She will not be named he pretty much said that we're she, and then he or she, or they said, Yeah, we pretty much nailed it. That's paraphrasing, but this is actually true actually true. This is real. This is not only is that real, but the person that we sent the data to was our data suggested, they were a mediocre to marginally effective director with the relatively low influence. Yeah. And they said you pretty much nailed it. So I don't know. We just don't have a robust listening audience, but I don't know how more people aren't reaching out to us to acquired. This is incredible. Come on, nobody reached that to anybody, but let's go. Here is why I chose Barrick Gold. Yeah. What do you do when 70% of your board ranks in the worst quartile for shareholder return, amongst all materials companies in the world. And you've been on the board for 17 years. I know you do this Barrick Gold okay's up to one billion dollar stock buyback over the next 12 months you buy back your share so that's what you're doing. So that's J. Brett Harvey. You don't like Stein? Stock BuyBacks? Let J Brett Harvey. Now at Barrett gold. Okay, I like this one is one of the Damien might be able to get it. Are you ready for the next one? There's only two lefts of this painful painful show. You ready? I'm ready. Next up is Robyn denholm. I know this one. You need to know this one. You don't just know anything, Jesse, because you can't name a publicly traded Tesla. That's it, that's it. Yes, you I was just like, oh, you know, company in the news you, that's pretty Jesse. You are officially. You're actually beating Damien. I'm pretty sure. How do I think we might be tied? That's too. That's amazing work. Robyn denholm is the chair of the audit committee. The chair of the disclosure control committee, which is a committee the SEC made Tesla make after Elon musk's tweeting Fiasco's and she's a member of the comp and nominating committee committee of Tesla. Well let's be fair Matt that second committee that was required but SCC that committee does nothing. They probably just ordered Papa John's. She only has 6% Is musk owned 69% of the influence on the board. That's favorite number two is that 69% is not like that is mathematical. We did not make it a joke. That's what the model. That's the, that's the greatest finding so far. I mean, we find that he is 69, he's like holding on to that purposely. Yeah, I think yeah. Probably. Um since musk is currently preoccupied with improving his own Twitter stats which has been in the news, someone has to explain why the company is run this way and I choose Robyn denholm. So if you have a question about this, ask Robin Tesla workers, reportedly say the company tracks, their keystrokes to make sure they're actively working. The latest complaint of workplace monitoring found so Robyn denholm. Yeah, there's another story. You look at you looking at their keystrokes. What's going on? Another worker related story out today yesterday but a group of workers. I think in the Buffalo, New York area who were potentially, can a former Union or complaining that they're now being fired? Wow, well, played anything from Starbucks, where the CEO is been asked to appear in the Senate of boomerang CEO, Howard Schultz at Starbuck's. He declined, Bernie Sanders, the car, the Senate wanted to testify about the treatment of workers there of unionized workers. He said, no, yeah, he's the, he's not available, he's not available that day. I believe, I believe he's busy counting his money somewhere. All right, last in this game. Are you ready? This one. You there's a 0% chance that you're gonna get this, either of you even in your wildest guesses, but this one might be true favorite one. Okay? Ready. Matthew rizk. Who the fuck is Matthew rizk? Anybody know, Uber. anybody interesting, uh, Matthew rizk, what's the story? Good guess, but wrong. We already did. Microsoft what else is in the news? This one you're not going to get you picked it back to Vision, blizzard, I have no idea. Go ahead. No, he's the chair of the nominating committee at Rocket companies. Rocket companies, that's not rocket mortgage. He's the chair of the nominating. Committee rocket just announced their CEO. Jay Farner is stepping down. Okay, so the nominated committee becomes incredibly important session planning, they put up in interim, CEO. In internal CEO named Bill Emerson who's been with the company for like 17 years, 15 years. So already we've got Boomerang potential, because rocket companies is not just famous, for being terrible at mortgages. They're actually famous for being one of the only companies I've ever seen with not one, not two, not three, but four classes of shares. Oh, it is a quad share company. What for what? Okay, what's going on or classes of shares? Yeah, the founder is executive chairman Dan Gilbert. Okay, Dan, Gilbert, all. So on the nominating committee, This is the same guy who owned the company Cavaliers. It's possible. Yes, go ahead. I believe it's the same Dan Gilbert, okay? Not only that, the third and final member of the nominating committee who's picking the new CEO and they have the interim CEO. They're gonna pick a. New one is a woman named Jennifer Gilbert. It's what Matthew rizk is on the nominating committee with the founder and the founders wife and their job is to choose the next CEO of stop. Wait, is this a controlled company? It is a controlled company. Okay. So it's just not, it's not a real, they're just playing their play. Why bother did the website the website says with your partner. Yeah, that's true. The website says that the headquarters is actually constructed at a Play-Doh. I do, I do want to say, though in the proxy this is how much they're like, they're just fooling around because there's no point to any of this. They every director actually discloses their favorite ISM quote, on quote, okay, this I can get behind. I like this and Damien loves his stuff so I've got all of their ISM so you ready? Okay, now I'm happy, I love you rocket. Right. Yeah yeah. Um, first up is Dan Gilbert. His ism is always raising our level of awareness, wait, Doesn't this is they're not like actual. There's like aphorisms. They're just things that they think platitude like a yearbook. Right. It's Oprah is. Yeah, it's literally it's their yearbook quote. That's what is that? I like it. What, a long strange trip. It's been I like it. Yeah, that's exactly what it's like. Okay, Nancy tellem pointless, director said numbers and money. Follow they do not lead. Wait, Jesse, Jesse, you're the money Whisperer, you're our abundance Advocate. What is it? What do you make of that? Little trying to figure that quote again. So they're called again numbers and money. Follow they do not lead. Sounds like she's being altruistic by saying that. I don't know what she's being. Yeah. Sounds like yes I don't think altruism is something you hear in the forest? Yeah. It's not that's not the buzzing sound you hear? No. Um next up is rizk himself. Matt rizk said this. You'll see it when you believe it. Okay. That's just that. Was that a nonsense? So they're talking about me at a station. Okay. I well I think he's talking about me single class shares or have a job that matters. Yeah. They're talking about a one share. One vote system where public shareholders say it? Oh okay next up is Suzanne. Shank another pointless. Like the name board member. Yeah, what was do the right thing? So the Golden Rule Spike Lee, no Spike. Lee fan, I like it and or leaving the board. Like maybe she's just a hint that she wants to off this board. Yeah, Jay Farner the outgoing CEO had this to say as is your book, quote, every client? Every time no exceptions, no excuses. That? What does that even mean? I don't even know. That means, every client every time, every time I think his personal assistant just like, oh, that was, yes. His like six year old with their their Peewee. Coach just said, next up is Jennifer, Gilbert wife of the founder. Yeah. Here's her quote. This might not be fair to her but here it is. Do the right thing. Oh wait, what? I'm not joking, it's the same way. We ain't Shanks. That's right two. We have two Spike Lee fans on the same boards. Amazing two people chose the same exact quote, I love right thing, I love that same way. And finally yeah Jonathan Jonathan Mariner who not only has a quote for his yearbook that I pulled out here but he has the dubious distinction that I'll tell you afterwards Jonathan Mariners quote is yeah will figure it out. Okay, that's it. We'll figure it out, sure. We'll figure it out. Confidence inducing, know, not only that, it's not inspiring. When, you know that Jonathan Mariner has the dubious distinction of being. The only black man on the board who is The ultimate token director because he's not on just one but he's on three different dual-class. Companies on the boards of them, his vote matters in zero of his blood is interesting. It's another another interesting thread we should follow up on that. That's fascinating. So he so he's just placed on boards where he has no his opinion does not matter at all is vote matters. His vote matters, zero like he's always overruled. He's the guy who sits in a chair, that's what he is. He's a checkbox. In fact, there's he happens to be the living embodiment of that at Rocket, but I'm combing, our database looking for all those people. I'm gonna say to the Gilbert if you're listening, I actually went to school in the Cleveland area. I'm available to sit on your board. Call me. Oh, I'll do it. I would love to. He's happy to just vote with manage. Yeah. But that's it. What would be your your book quote? Please don't park in front of my driveway. Park. Yeah, I like that. I'm still working out the syntax, but that That's it. Oh, that's the game. That's the game you all lost. Actually, I'm gonna say Jesse won this game, did yeah. Jesse one Jesse's prove it proving that she fully belongs by you actually knew the companies have two randomly named directors. Jesse, that's pretty frightening. If you could, I could not name a publicly traded company at one point, but otherwise name figured it out. I I guess I sort of like that game. That's gonna go, that's ringing. Praise before I play again, I need to like, just go over a list of 100 public companies. Just so I have to talk to Aries just because we tracked what 10,000 public companies, so yeah. Talk to her. Yeah, the point of this game is we're all reading the news. You know, about the train derailment and Bing's chatbot but not one person can name a director who makes that decision. That's the point, that's all we got. Give me some music. So we're so why don't we reserve? The you want to talk about this New York Times article a bit more, but it seems like a great topic for the Friday show. No. Yeah. Tomorrow we'll cover it assholes exhausting. All the, all the fun stuff. It's going to be the new you didn't turn on the loop, but I didn't want to tell you. It's going to be. Yeah, the longest Friday show. I think we'll ever do. Oh God. Okay. But that's all I got. That's Damien Raul's and Jesse the money Whisperer. And I am full of BS by board saber metrics, because that's where you can get all this data, until then goodbye. It's like the Oscars. He's raising the volume on me before. I'm done.